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toscas_kiss ([personal profile] toscas_kiss) wrote2004-11-27 03:59 am

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When fanfiction is miles better than life art anime...

I've just finished rewatching Weiß Kreuz Kapital for my Crawford/Schuldig [livejournal.com profile] ship_manifesto essay.

Eeeee.

I'd forgotten just how snortingly awful the subtitle translations for my version are. Not that I believe the dialogue is any better or less clichéd in Japanese, but sometimes the sheer Babel-Fishiness of it is mindboggling.

And the sheer stupidity shortsightedness of most of the characters - mentally, emotionally and logically - also never ceases to astound me. Though I guess without Angst (emphasis on the capital 'A') there couldn't be Weiß.

The plots? I'm not going to touch those with a six-foot naginata. Bad, bad, bad, bad, just plain bad. And Brain Damage fairly comprehensively covers everything anyone can possibly say about the 'quality' of the animation.

[ducks projectiles]

But I love it! you know I do!

Gratuitous and violent slaying of innocents, silly weapons, Wierd Science projects, truckloads of sexy bishounen assassins - both bad and good er, not-quite-so-bad. And those are just the beginning good points. How could anyone not love it?

[wanders off to write about synergy between sociopaths... ]

[identity profile] lisa-bee.livejournal.com 2004-11-26 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
It is So. Bad.

Every time I try to re-watch it I am reminded of the fact that it gains from horrible Engrish subtitles, because the legit DVDs? They try so darn hard to make it make sense, and it's just not possible at all. Ever.

On the other hand, Weiss gives us synergy between sociopaths, and that's more than enough to make me forgive the horrifying animation. At least until next time I start to watch it and claw my eyes out in horror. ;)

[identity profile] daegaer.livejournal.com 2004-11-27 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
It gains a lot from the bloopers and jokes for the dubbing (from, er, some site I can't remember):

Crawford: *berates Nagi about not screwing up plot to eleiminate Schreient*
Nagi *thinks*: But I don't want that girl to die! . . . *perves* She's such a hottie!

Yohji: *poses against wall* God, I'm so sexy.

Eszett elder: Why are you doing this? I'll give you all positions of power when we come into our kingdom!
Crawford: Kingdom? Ehehe. We don't need no steenking keengdom!

[identity profile] lisa-bee.livejournal.com 2004-11-27 07:39 am (UTC)(link)
Mmm, the bloopers and jokes from the dubbing are very funny. I think the american actors had much more perspective on the whole "this is CRAZYTIME!" aspect of Weiss than the Japanese ones did.

Also, your icon is so cute!

[identity profile] toscas-kiss.livejournal.com 2004-11-27 03:29 pm (UTC)(link)
We don't need no steenking keengdom!

ROFLMAO! Do send me the URL if you ever run across it again - that is too too funny!

[identity profile] daegaer.livejournal.com 2004-11-27 04:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Yay!

http://www.maniacnun.com/weissthr.htm

Have a look at the music videos as well, they're hugely impressive. Carnivale 2000 is a remake of the Weiss/Schwarz battle with Schwarz kicking ass in a most (un)righteous way - although you'll shriek at the end.

If you can ever explain what Schuldig's doing in another one, playing with Aya's hair while Aya-chan looks on in a drugged out state, I'll be most grateful.

[identity profile] toscas-kiss.livejournal.com 2004-11-27 03:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep. Definitely. I'd read so much fanfiction and not seen it for so long it was all somewhat of an ambush...

[identity profile] lisa-bee.livejournal.com 2004-11-27 04:11 pm (UTC)(link)
The sharp edges and bad cel-art all fade into the blurry pretty manga drawings, and we forget that the show itself doesn't quite look like that. What I find incredible is how well I can blind myself to the changes in Gluhen, until re-watching, that is.